On this episode of ABR LIVE!, Brian is back and still mostly alive. Today we are diving into Moneybeer - Alec, Brian, and Chad each put together a dream 6-pack for our next Tavour crate. But just like your favorite penny-pinching MLB front office, we are working with a limited budget. On top of that we are limited to the beers that have landed at ABR LIVE! HQ via Tavour. While we reveal our crates we weigh in on a couple of heavyweight brews from Civil Society Brewing and Fair State Co-Op.
Civil Society Brewing
Tropical Envy NEIPA
16 oz - Tavour Crate
10% ABV
Fair State Co-Op
Biggie Jumbo
12 oz - Tavour Crate
10% ABV
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On this episode of ABR LIVE!, Brian is back and still mostly alive. Today we are diving into Moneybeer - Alec, Brian, and Chad each put together a dream 6-pack for our next Tavour crate. But just like your favorite penny-pinching MLB front office, we are working with a limited budget. On top of that we are limited to the beers that have landed at ABR LIVE! HQ via Tavour. While we reveal our crates we weigh in on a couple of heavyweight brews from Civil Society Brewing and Fair State Co-Op.
Civil Society Brewing
Tropical Envy NEIPA
16 oz - Tavour Crate
10% ABV
Fair State Co-Op
Biggie Jumbo
12 oz - Tavour Crate
10% ABV
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Welcome to another episode of the American Beer Review Podcast.
Speaker 2:Good times for good friends requires good beer. Lucky for us, we know ethnic all three.
Speaker 3:We're a group of friends who grew up in the Pacific Northwest, giving us a jump start on our craft beer journey.
Speaker 1:Join us today. While Brian that pride myself on not getting to know other people, so do not put that on me Alec.
Speaker 3:The bananas, up until like the 60s, weren't entirely different species of banana.
Speaker 2:And Chad Hit me like a bacon bar Review some beer, talk about beer topics, whatever else comes up.
Speaker 1:We invite you to pour yourself a drink and hang out with us. Get my untapped open, dude. It feels like it feels like it's been forever.
Speaker 2:It hasn't been forever, it's been like two months.
Speaker 1:Well, and because we were at Iron Horse, well, but that's the thing is, because Iron Horse we did, but it was so like different than just sitting here and doing it, that like I was watching the one you guys did without me and I'm just like I don't remember the last time I like sat down and actually did a podcast, so yeah, yeah, because it was like two or three weeks, yeah, and then we got the opportunity to go to Iron Horse.
Speaker 2:We'll keep going on that. But to start things up, yes, brian is back, we're together again.
Speaker 1:I am Survived Barely man. It came back around too, so it was no longer a cardboard cut out. Yeah, I was kind of cracking up. My favorite part is the thought bubble things that kept popping up. Right, yes, it's included.
Speaker 2:So, fun fact, I rendered, I did a lot more bubbles, but then I rendered out the video like the night before. I had to get it done, just like in high school. I apologize Last minute. Yeah, I, there's a little eyeball because I had hide them all to do some stuff and I rendered it out with them all gone, so I had to redo it again. Oh, that's not morning.
Speaker 2:So there were some more. So maybe when we do a Chad's version of all these directors cut yeah, we'll get a director's cut, yeah, but today, yes, we are episode 43. Yeah, title TBD the Jackie Robinson episode. There you go, it's a better one. There we go. We're going to go through our money beer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait, is he 43 or is he 42? He might have been 42 also.
Speaker 3:Richard Petty episode.
Speaker 1:Richard Petty episode.
Speaker 2:There would be a note somewhere here, yeah, where we fixed that. I think he's 42. Yeah, but in addition to our money, beers we're going to be drinking from civil society brewing, oh yeah, tropical Envy. A triple New England IPA, oh, nepa, oh, we're still strong, okay. And then Skippings rolling, and then Bikki Jumbo, imperial style from Fair State Brewing Cooperative, cooperative, which we had their tasty, tasty cold last summer.
Speaker 1:Which might make a return in later part of this episode.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, nice, I've been mulling through their chill state CBD waters.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I saw that in the fridge. Yeah. So is it? It's just a hot water with CBD, though, and THC.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, so it's not just like yeah, but it's like, so, like the, the CBD is like eating fiber with how the carbs are yeah, by the fiber of the CBD, kind of it's a great wind down Because kind of a co.
Speaker 1:it's a separate company technically, but like Bailbreaker does the sun gaze. Okay, the THC one.
Speaker 2:And I've had theirs yeah.
Speaker 1:I had one of the five milligram ones one time, pretty solid.
Speaker 2:It's like having a high ABV beer Just a nice one, but just one yeah. Just one.
Speaker 3:Not mad about it. No sugar?
Speaker 2:Oh, all right, let's check it out, I just want to rip the Band-Aid off and provide their money beer, since I have mine in front of me.
Speaker 1:I just pulled mine up, did you? Yeah, I was checking this morning that I had it complete. Well, because I was like I said I was watching the old episodes, yeah, and show prep, what, yeah, sort of. And that's when I was like I'm pretty sure I did that weeks ago, like filled it out, yeah, and so, oh, we filled this out months ago.
Speaker 3:What? Because we planned to do like a month before we actually recorded it, yeah, and then everything kept getting Well, and then that's what.
Speaker 1:and I was like, oh well, maybe I should look because, like there's probably different beers since what. I filled it out and then I realized I haven't had any of them because I wasn't on the episodes in the change. So wait, you said you're doing the list before we pour beer.
Speaker 3:So we're going to mix it in. So I'll do my list with pour beer, chavadu, a bit list. That way we're not just spamming, we're going to do.
Speaker 1:Oh, we mean where you guys spent the first half drinking beer of the episode and then just being nerds for the entire second half. Yeah.
Speaker 3:We're going to take advantage of you not being here. That was a lot of nerd stuff. So $42 beer budget and so caveat, we talked about this.
Speaker 2:And so we are putting together a to work rate. Yeah six beer, a six pack of all the beers that we have had in to war up to.
Speaker 3:But you can't go over $42, cannot go over $42, but it's a four great, so it's nothing local or available here. So, like some of our favorite beers, a boundary Bay and Ironhorns right, right, right and not going to be and that includes shipping to my door.
Speaker 2:So this was all in price to my oh. That doesn't make me feel a little better, so I can't under $42 six pack delivered to my door.
Speaker 3:So start, I hit $42 on the nose. Okay, nice, by design or accident and accident. I had a couple of tweaks through that. When I first did the list, I had like five Sours. I think I still ended up with three Sours, but two of them I don't count as actual Sours Because they're smoothie beers. Don't want to miss, yeah. So Coastal Sunrise version seven. That was probably my favorite beer we reviewed over the last 12 months.
Speaker 1:If there's any crossover, do we say or we just wait and told it's your turn?
Speaker 2:No, no, a lot of reps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that one's on mine too. Yeah, that was one of my favorite beers that we reviewed, so that was my first was it a bottle or was it a can? It was a can because I said that was one of the few beers that I stole.
Speaker 1:Oh, really that you're like actually taking this one really do.
Speaker 3:so that was my favorite beer. Yeah, I have to have a director in your to vorcrate, so I chose mango marshmallow Sweet. You could have replaced any of the chunk. Yeah, the chunk mango marshmallow. Bro, we have the same list. Sorry, I went back and forth, but yeah, any of the director, that's just the one I picked. I think that one I did pick, so it was like 50 cents cheaper, so it got me to the 42 guys.
Speaker 1:I picked it Because I think that was our first one, yes, yeah, and and I think that's the one that then I had in the morning playing video games Like weeks later, yeah, so to me it just like kind of was like the quintessential, like start to this trekker, like Yep stuff.
Speaker 3:So yeah, for my IPA I want King Citra the Imperial. Ipa I want. King over Emperor Citra, just a little bit different, little bit more drinkable In my opinion. Little star, star size on from pale up off to carry.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's one of the last times I was here. We had that one. That's the one in bed, and then yeah yeah, I'll throw it through like branches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, woods.
Speaker 3:Then for a logger at it, paper lantern by cerebral brewing. It was a coin flip between that and Yamabiko it's a both Japanese style loggers, but I ended up with paper lantern. I actually had to go back and listen to the reviews on which I almost did yeah, to figure out which one I liked better. But I paper lantern. And then I wrapped it up with Brian's favorite spicy pickle monster. Hell yeah, which technically a fruited sour, but I don't count that as like a Sour yeah fruited sour.
Speaker 3:That's just kind of its own thing, but that was so, did you actually?
Speaker 1:do multiple variations, so you had a different list, looked at it more like this is too many sours and so you switched it out. Or was it just the money that you switched?
Speaker 3:I just switched because I had like five. Five of the six were sour, so I still ended up with three.
Speaker 1:Technically, kind of year.
Speaker 3:Like you've always been, the more into sours, but I don't count pickle monsters a sour really, I mean, and then I don't the smoothies are the smoothies a sour, but it's not really. Yeah, I got a sour beer. So that's my list. That's my 42 dollars. I expect that in the mail.
Speaker 2:We'll do some kind of Graphic and whatnot. See what I can do. There you go.
Speaker 1:I've had got a few weeks, so oh yeah, so tell me this, I can look it up, because I.
Speaker 2:Didn't do that much. Out of Jupiter, florida, from civil society brewing. Oh, tropical envy, their triple NEPA, nepa.
Speaker 1:I don't know, england, ipa, what we'll figure it out, well we'll workshop that yeah, I don't think you want to call it a NEPA. No, tropical envy, tropical envy Okay, I had a Jupiter Florida, I definitely have not.
Speaker 3:So it's Jupiter and West Palm Beach. They have two locations now, but Jupiter is where they started. Um, I didn't do a ton.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was wondering with this, it's a? It's a collab, yes, with A brewery that I've heard a lot about, but I've never had one of their beers vitamin C brewing At a mass Massachusetts.
Speaker 3:So that's a weird not weird, but interesting collapse in both East Coast. Yeah, so it's a true, they can do England they got some New England.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could be part of why they decided to do it. Yes, so, um, I love I love the color on this I've. I've heard a lot about vitamin C. Um, because every time I hear their name it makes me think of that like graduation song that was by a like singer named vitamin C. Oh, so you guys are right now. It came out like either probably before probably, if I hear, or our year.
Speaker 3:Well, this is vitamin C sea.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, Um, oh, so we're not fighting scurvy with this vitamin.
Speaker 3:You might be hit. From the looks of it, you are. So this is. Yeah, I'm getting lots of grapefruit, citra Galatine mosaic brew, one Citra cryo, so it's a full body, then juicy, uh, tropical fruit medley from the hops and layers of stone fruit, uh, essars from the yeast. Yeah, I dialed.
Speaker 2:I dialed your headphones in, so you and me are about the same level, so you're you're hitting everything I hear.
Speaker 3:Oh, you might fight scurvy with this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, the smell is really nice, like it is um, I've always wanted, I like, would love to try to get better at um picking out particular things. But like to me, like this is citrus, but like I don't know, like I can't tell you just from the spell, like, oh, is it more grapefruit or is it more orange or whatever, but like it is when it's almost like um this the smell is a little bit like smelling the bag of hops. Yes, like where it's. It's that like Not um, I don't know, you just get the like fresh, like that really fresh hoppy smell. Like where it's just kind of like Jumping into your nostrils. Yeah, like it really. It really does come out of the glass a bit there. Oh, give it a.
Speaker 2:Swizzle, swizzle.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that really I didn't do a ton of research on civil city, our civil society.
Speaker 2:One thing was uh, it's founded by three dudes. I think I got that far. Uh, their whole mantra is we want to make uh tasty beer for the people in our area and If uh basically kind of support our local area with tasty, tasty beer, which?
Speaker 3:and I think it's tasty beer. Two cousins and a Friend, I think, and they have like so very family forward. They have like something that each of their like grandparents or great grandparents so like, yeah, you have this like uh Memorial flag from their great grandfather Served and like an eagle that one of the grandfather's carved and so pretty cool stuff. And then the one that jumped out, uh, coming out of our Iron horse tour, was they name each one of their tanks. Oh, so it's in, the one they have here is harriett. So we have whatever tropical envy and harriett right now we're going to transfer out. So they name them all after like family members and stuff. But I thought that was kind of. It's very cool Looking at all those tanks trying to figure out how you keep track. Oh yeah, a1b1c. Yeah, now make which name more um, I really like their logo.
Speaker 1:It's like kind of uh, um, I don't know if it's on the can there, but it's like a. Is that the slice of grapefruit?
Speaker 3:No, it's like a dog french.
Speaker 1:Yeah, almost like a french bulldog or like a boston terrier or something, but like with kind of extra long ears. Um, and then in the suit, in a suit, yes. So yeah, nice, yeah, they got some cool merch stuff with it.
Speaker 2:Um, I, I like the little. Oh, oh yeah, the can is nice, yeah, you got the, you got the old, you got the guy with the telescope, kind of it gave me the. I picked this because it kind of gave me the vibe of springs on the way and we were going to be recording this. Um, spring, spring, spring, is it wants to start? So bad when they're.
Speaker 3:I don't know where their brewery facility is or their tap room, but the I mean jupiter's on the water.
Speaker 1:West Palm Beach. I mean, their two locations are jupiter and what you call me each, so they're southeast florida.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so very fitting, can art?
Speaker 2:I would love to Get my feet in some sand and sip this, I think this is. This is great for kind of our spring Dampness that we get up here in the northwest, but I could definitely see myself sipping, sipping on this 70s nice.
Speaker 1:Problem for me is the 10%.
Speaker 3:Oh, did we not mention that part yeah?
Speaker 1:10% alcohol.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a triple. Yeah, wow, doesn't taste like a 10%, but no no, it does not and that's what.
Speaker 1:When I first drank it, that was my first thought. It's like oh, this is one that like, that's one One they're at the, at a Taproom they're not going to give you.
Speaker 3:Pint of this and probably.
Speaker 2:This would be an eight ounce or a five ounce.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're probably going 10 or 11 Maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and um, okay, see, I can feel the booze now a little bit. Yeah, I can't feel my tongue.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's a little bit when it comes to that. That's the only thing that's like. Um, you certainly didn't make sure you're not having more than one like well.
Speaker 3:Well, both of ours today are 10%ers, so yes, yeah, but we're also doing it in tasters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:This is tasty. Nobody telling you this is 10%. You, there is the booziness to it and now I can feel it on my tongue. Yes, I would not peg this as a mid mid tier, like you're gonna go seven and a half eight. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, brew houses are on site. So, yeah, for both of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they. I think they've been around since the mid 20 teens as well. So another all the I think all the folks that we're going to get into today kind of cropped up about the same time as iron horse, kind of that.
Speaker 1:Iron horse technically was around earlier.
Speaker 2:iron horse is longer but um, most of these folks are og kind of Getting in at that beginning of the craft, so they're fairly mature.
Speaker 3:Well, I know this was, even in its current iteration, early or mid aughts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Um 452 different beers on the lots of them, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, and also which makes sense if you're brewing it in at the tap room?
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially if you're doing different stuff at each location and doing that. So, um, and the thing is like I mean it's you're not seeing through it, you're getting a really bright yellow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:And it is like there's a little bit of a thickness to it, but not in like a smoothie kind of way, but just more that like it's a hearty one like this is what.
Speaker 2:Like when you first told me about haze's. This is kind of it makes sense, because they brought in the Vitamin C.
Speaker 1:Yeah, folks up there where this kind of this is why when people say, go, we got a haze and it's like when, what are we talking about? So this to me is that sometimes it's just a cloudy IPA. This is a New England IPA. Yeah, a haze is like Unfiltered or like they're just that style. This is full-on juice bomb new England IPA like.
Speaker 3:Well, and all the ones I looked at for this recording session listed them as New England slash haze now, so it looks like the nomenclature is just moving. There's a difference. But yeah, call them whatever interchangeably. And they say it's juicy and I don't know whether the alcohol is making it Feel less juicy because I want to call this a juicy IPA. This is I would, would you? Yeah, it's not, oh, but it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think there's something to that, because I'm going back to kettlehead pulpy that was like that was juicy, that was slapping the face juicy. I Think, yeah, with a little bit of that, less booze. If this, if we had the double or the single version of this I was gonna say I wonder how much has to do with it being a triple that's.
Speaker 3:I'm saying it's alcohol because it's got a bit more of a drier finish. But I'm not mad at you see. No, it's not at all.
Speaker 2:It's just fine. But you know what? I just looked at the can. It says double and you pay a little on the can really, but it was like what you guys everywhere else on top has it as a triple. Anyways, cool, yeah, oh yeah, any last thoughts, we're gonna do all the. We'll do all the fridging at the end For the folks on the YouTubes so we can do the bookmarks, oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got you. Oh yeah, you said that on the video is watching, but it didn't make sense and now it does. Man, I'm a little slow on the updates. Okay, like you, just. Oh. Oh, I didn't did I do it.
Speaker 2:Everyone give it is give it a huge.
Speaker 1:I didn't touch mine. I know that it's me. I didn't think I touched it, but I'm a juice.
Speaker 2:Give it a little twist. Give them my physically, give them a kid. It's done, is it? I don't hear it.
Speaker 1:Well, cuz you just messed with, I hear everything cheese one of these days, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, it is okay, don't touch it. Oh god, there it is again. No, okay, we're good, we're good, lord. I'm gonna cut all that out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's put that back.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's going on the shorts.
Speaker 3:Oh, something's going in your shorts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds it's fine. I mean we're fine. We're fine, it's just gonna get us.
Speaker 3:Moving on. Yes, chad, you want to share your.
Speaker 2:So I will Lead things off with, from director brewing, the chunk mango marshmallow, for sure. Part of this was we didn't know you had a roll beer, oh yeah. And so I think you guys got like the first few, like it was when we're the old way out. So I think some of us got like the different.
Speaker 2:Yours came out as like glug. I got this lunch, yeah, so I'm putting that back in there because I want to taste it again, rolling it properly. Then my second one is the punch bowl cake From woven water brewing, and that was one we didn't do it on the episode, I brought it in and that was a Instagram post for Valentine's Day. Well, that's cheating. That you can't. You can't from the board. Is it on the list? It was in the bear fridge, you guys know, is it on this list?
Speaker 3:It was like the ones we didn't quite get to.
Speaker 2:It's on the list, but same thing. This is the one that had the cake in it and I didn't roll it, so I wanted to go back in time and roll again. It was on the list.
Speaker 3:Your list is like beers. You wish you had to try over. That was it? That's okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so out of all the beers in that list, that was the only one that we haven't tasted on the pod.
Speaker 1:This still feels a little shenanigan II, but you know I.
Speaker 2:Make up the rules.
Speaker 1:It's his list, I mean it also, it's his list and it's. It was his game anyways.
Speaker 2:So next up, spike, spicy pickle monster from prayers, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Then cold from fair state co-op, it's good call. And then Yamabiko rice logger. Okay, so yeah, I was. I was the same thing as you was like I had the cerebral butt. There was a something about the Yamabiko that I really just dialed in.
Speaker 3:I think it was because it, but it was more recent, so I had to go back and listen to the two of you fresh in my mind Um.
Speaker 2:And then, to round it out, I'm going with the knock dark check. Oh, that was always see. Brewing, that was a good one too, and mine came in at 37 bucks.
Speaker 3:Oh, saving some money five bucks cheaper.
Speaker 2:My first one was $80, I thought I. But in my hubris I thought I could sneak a few of the uh kind of limited release ones that were very expensive. I tried to get a couple. I tried to put a couple barrel aged and I tried to get the yeah, cause there's one that we're going to be trying a little bit later today. I was going to try to sneak the jester king in there, but oh, yeah, but like the yeah Cause even the barric brewing you're like you're losing like almost a
Speaker 3:third of your budget. It's gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, cause that one. Then there was death of the sun. Have we had that?
Speaker 2:one, yet that one is a TBD, okay. So some of the like, yeah, yeah, yeah, the published date we quite haven't gotten to.
Speaker 3:That one was slotted. It has been slaughtered a couple of times, I think.
Speaker 1:Well, that one, and then the one on the list that I saw in your fridge today that I really want to try, is the squid ink.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's coming out with the water themed episode, because we have squid ink and then ocean water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, gimmicks, yeah. Well, you know, themes, themes, themes. Yeah, you know, unfortunately. Fortunately we got to do the wonderful visited iron horse, so kind of.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I did, did, I do some things. Not mad about it. It was a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 3:Yes, Absolutely so. Speaking of fair state, yeah, moving on to Biggie Jumbo, that was all your list, right I'm going to cut it off? Nope.
Speaker 2:We got Biggie Jumbo Imperial Stout.
Speaker 3:Imperial it's called double on the can.
Speaker 1:What is it? What's the name? Again?
Speaker 3:Biggie Jumbo.
Speaker 1:Biggie Jumbo, you should pay attention more.
Speaker 3:This is thick.
Speaker 2:Scary looking. Yeah, this is a thick stout. Oh, yeah, baby, this was. We'll post a little. I'll post a little video. This was our pass that around. Oh, if you follow our Instagram, you saw us doing a little hot beer poking action with unauthorized tools and we did buy the official ones. I have an official hot beer poker now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Food safe Food safe. We did the Biggie Jumbo in that video will be appearing here. Oh yeah, that's why I've had it before. The can was familiar, so we, so you, made you try this one. I'm caramelized Biggie.
Speaker 3:Jumbo you did yeah, yeah, oh. So Biggie Jumbo double stout, 10% alcohol Frigid Minnesota winners are the perfect pairing for this double stout. Biggie Jumbo is brewed with high quality malts, just enough hops to balance out the flavor and that's it. This robust stout is simply and straightforwardly rich, roasty, malty and chocolatey. A hearty, warming beer for the coldest months of the year.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it seems like I haven't smelt it, I haven't done anything, but it seems like really, their intent with this is a more straightforward, big bodied stout, but not like. It's not barrel age, it's not maple syrup added, it's not like a bunch of other stuff Like they talk about it. Return to a strong stout that finishes dry and lets the beer speak for itself. No ridiculous sweetness or adjuncts, just a simple beer with high quality malts and our house bittering hop. So so you're. I'm intrigued to be able to try it to see like, because I feel like a lot of times to get. When people are getting to that big 10% or higher ABV, they're usually doing something with it, barreling it there and a bunch of stuff this didn't call out any of that Artificially Doing some kind of shenanigans, I think, to get the sugars or different things.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There's a lot of malts in there, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:I don't know about poundage wise, but I'm missing Right.
Speaker 2:But, yeah you're going to have to do a lot of malts anyway. Yeah, you swirl this thing. It's a, it's a hurdy-gurdy, but you don't and I think maybe it's the difference of it not being barrel-edged or something.
Speaker 1:You're not getting the like. You're not getting the vanilla, you're not getting the tannins In the boozy like of it, You're getting a little more that alcohol bite is there because there's not, like some other blended flavors, kind of knocking it down.
Speaker 2:But I don't like on first blush. Yeah, it's just that. That's just a nice big stout Getting some of that Roasty malt. There's a little bit. There's a little bit of that burn from the booze, I think I mean you get more of that. And I'm getting that kind of multi bite I guess it's what I'm going to call it, but the dark Roasty like like the dark roast coffee kind of that bitterness comes through.
Speaker 1:Yeah but not not like there's coffee in it or that type, like it's not getting to that much, because even like you get a little bit of like a chocolatey smell and taste too, but that obviously is just like them playing with the malts and stuff, because favorite profile is chocolatey malty and Roasty, and I think Roasty's the one with the coffee.
Speaker 2:I'm getting that Roasty thing, and then. So when we did do the unauthorized hot beer poking with this Yep, oh yeah, the biggest thing on that was all that foam it creates yeah, that warm foam. And then you get that cold, then the beer comes, so it starts warm, getting that nice foam, it's like it's like a nitro's it, and then that cold beer hits after. It is just a.
Speaker 3:It's like apple pie and ice cream yes, I mean just that cold. It's like beer all the way Like a Pazuki.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that is From BJs, where you get the. They make a fresh hot Enjoy. Bjs, but I've never had a Pazuki Cookie and then ice cream on top. One of these days we're going to get through an episode without. Today is not that day.
Speaker 3:No, two different sides of the coin today in beers for sure. Yeah. All the 10% is interesting too. Yes.
Speaker 1:I was going to say the can for the Biggie Jumbo honestly, like if you told me that was like a New England IPA, like a triple IPA. I'm like, yes, that makes a ton of sense. It's like the coloring it's just kind of funny to go with, like a really bright colorful can For a stout. And then, yes, you have this.
Speaker 3:When I was looking at their beer list and obviously probably not all of them are on their website but I was looking for, like a Biggie. Do they have a regular stout? The?
Speaker 1:I'll have to pull this back up, let me, because the way they talked about it is that it's almost like they just use the phrase Biggie Jumbo in general in their tap room, because it says in our tap room most people know, quote Biggie Jumbo refers to a big old beer, and so I'm not sure if, like it's like a rotating. Yes.
Speaker 3:Is it a?
Speaker 1:rotator, or is it like a phrasing? They used to be Like that. Somehow it just became like what kind of Biggie Jumbo beer do you have today? And then finally they seem to kind of put an actual hit to this and then everyone went yeah, that's Biggie Jumbo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe their beer on their website, as I was clicking through that, perfectly epitomizes today, as we're looking forward to spring, we're in the throws of winter, exiting winter. They have an all gray everywhere, which I feel like is a perfect beer for today or for the last six months it is a cold IPA. So it could be tasty. It looks like they have a little bit more.
Speaker 2:They have a ton in our tap room. Oh yeah, their whole thing has come to the tap room. I did do the chill states, obviously, that we talked about. Those get delivered to your door.
Speaker 1:The all gray everywhere is a collab with Wayfinder out of Portland there you go, so then that's where the all gray everywhere can't go.
Speaker 2:Probably Yep. They probably went out to Brute in Portland in November, november, january.
Speaker 1:First, it's the one that had so cold, but they were selling it in like 12 packs, right, yes, they were crafty, they were the one that you could get it shipped. Yes, okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to not everywhere, yeah, but if you're in the state, yeah, you can go pick, you get it.
Speaker 1:Shipped from them to you. One of those beer rules.
Speaker 2:Beer laws yeah.
Speaker 4:Interstate beer laws yeah there's a lot of Well that's nice.
Speaker 2:I'm mad about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought they had something, or this was something they were carving into the whatever classic beer aisle, I don't remember. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I know it's one of those I like. I vaguely remember it, but I can't. I can't remember the whole thing. But on their website.
Speaker 3:It's in 12 packs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, but so again, they are a co-op. So the only other co-op that I brewery co-op that I know of is in Greenwood in Seattle. Oh, I mean, there's a ton of them Flying bike.
Speaker 3:Washington's first co-op. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because they found about it from, like a co-op in Colorado or something like that. They meaning Fair state. Okay yeah, so there's a few of them.
Speaker 2:And they got like 2000 some member right now.
Speaker 1:Which I think is way more than even flying bike pad.
Speaker 2:But if you were going to having a good community that wants to come drink your beer, I think that's a great thing, especially when you know part of what we learned at Ironhorses. Go into the tap room, yeah, please drink draft?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, because unfortunately fair state's going through a little bit of a restructuring, restructuring.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I don't know enough about what the actual business plan would be when you have 2,000 people kind of all having some ability to, yeah, and ensure that there is some hierarchy and different things still. But like that still can't be the simplest way to train, I don't think they run the back end. No all 2,000 people.
Speaker 3:No, that's more of like a what should we make next?
Speaker 1:and, yeah, involved, then we'll put your name on the wall and well, even like at Flying Bike, I feel like they have like like brewing days where like people can come in and do stuff or like make their own and then potentially more mass produce.
Speaker 3:But you're not writing checks or dealing with HR or any of that.
Speaker 1:No, that's a lot of people do that. Did you have more to?
Speaker 3:say no, all I've got for them.
Speaker 1:You got a list to go through, yeah, and so I'm gonna start off with the duplicates, the final crate, sorry, and I will start off first of all with cold. There you go From Ferstay Brewing. It really was just one of the first, I think, like lighter beers that we like as like a. To me it really hit solidly as like just a standard, like drinkable anytime, like just to have as like, especially, I think, the idea of having you be able to buy it in the 12 pack as it being like your go-to, just like house beer, I guess a sort of thing, sorry, like that.
Speaker 1:I also had Chonk the Mango Marshmallow Nice, like we talked about, with it being their first kind of real dip into the smoothie beers. I mean, I think that one and just the, I think it broke our mind. That's what I was gonna say along those lines. Is it really just kind of was the first that like I think I had known about them and had seen them but not really had one, and it literally just was like what in the hell is going on here? I also had Coastal Sunrise. I just remember that beer being so like just solid, enjoyable, like we actually knew how to roll the beer that one wasn't a roll one.
Speaker 3:No, that was just. That was a straight-up sour.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a fruited sour, but it wasn't. But that that's. That is the one that we actually said and we've said it for a few of them. This is the one that to me, was the like the most like simple mimosa-y, just fruited sour, where it's like it almost was like having a sour New England IPA, where it just was kind of like a really good blend of the styles and everything. The K&R was also pretty on point, yeah. So then two of them that really kind of like I think one I said it was I couldn't believe it wasn't made in the Pacific Northwest and that was Rainmaker from Torch and Crab. The first New York beer.
Speaker 1:That one, and then, I think, did we have another one from them, or I think I just got one from you found another from a hop club that I was in that I got that one.
Speaker 1:So and Rainmaker was actually a paleo, not an IPA, so, somewhat accidentally fitting with my new general policy, I don't have any IPA's on here. Next one Nectaron wallpaper. Yeah, nectaron, I really enjoyed it here. And then I think that was when I was still doing social stuff and I took that one and really did enjoy getting to drink that again and have it again. So that's, and that's one of those. To me that was like I think it was like a more of a hopped like Pilsner Nectaron, obviously, yep, and so having a good blend of like kind of being IPA-ish but still lighter. So really enjoyed that one. And then I actually have one that is local to us that I don't think any of you guys realized there was a local one that we had on there.
Speaker 2:I think there is, I know From Matchless. Do you know which one? It is so close? The Saloon Lager, yes.
Speaker 1:So close to Pilsner, braven and adventurous.
Speaker 2:The Saloon.
Speaker 1:Lager Was also just another solid one that to me, like there was a little bit of extra flavor in there, but still just kind of a chill like that. It makes me think of when I used to go and hang out in Seattle and was like living there. I would always end up going down before meeting up with people and I would end up sitting at this like one bar and would always get just like a whiskey and they used to have a beer called like Old Seattle, just a slugger, and so to me it kind of was reminiscent of like a blend of that, yeah, and an experience.
Speaker 2:That was totally my. It's still the it's in the fridge. Yeah, I think I've seen it, so it was.
Speaker 1:Did they have? It was Matchless at the beer festival.
Speaker 2:Yes, they did not have this.
Speaker 1:They didn't have that one.
Speaker 2:Oh god, I forgot what they had. I remember what they had, but it was a. It was a. It was a Pale, ale Okay.
Speaker 1:So, oh, and my crate Came in at 39. Even there you go nice right in the middle. So yeah, the I think it was the that it's like Colch's and loggers like I have, but I have a Pilsner, a colch and a logger, so you're looking at like Pretty cheap for that. So, like my actual price, average per can is 650.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now that I'm looking at mine, I have two smoothies hours, a kettle sour, a Colch and two loggers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So it's a drop just down a little bit to no IPA's, I Do we.
Speaker 1:We're gonna end up having to like, get ourselves into, like, a whole IPA revival to like.
Speaker 3:IPA's, but I think Citra.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah you, but that's what saying. You're the only one that has the traditional like IPA on there, but it's and a double double IPA.
Speaker 2:Yeah from the website DIPPA, but it was. We have so many IPA's, it's almost like that's just I don't need. This is like a yeah, it's a special thing and what these are special and that's why, like realistically, I'm probably not ordering Matchless off of.
Speaker 3:To war you're gonna run out of the tum water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it's, I could figure that out like I get it. And in the real world I'm probably not. Like, if I'm less, I'm trying to keep it under a budget, I'm probably not also ordering a coleslaw of there. No, but they just were ones that like that is kind of the upside of like a Tavor thing or getting that crate or doing those types of sampling is that you're like You're able to find some different things and try some different stuff and I mean you pay, you're gonna pay for it, but if it's including shipping, like it's like 550 for a tall boy, I think all of mine were 16 ounces to yeah, my most expensive one was eight bucks.
Speaker 1:Oh no, the course, the punch bowl cake, the colesha's only in 12 ounces.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I see, pickle monster was a 12 other thing. Everything else was 16.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, my average. I did my average ounces, so my average ounce was 14 ounces. I can. That's because I had I had 312s and 316.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I had everything 16, except for one.
Speaker 3:Yeah and I put it on my list, but I probably don't need more than 12 spicy pickle monster. No, no.
Speaker 2:And no matter how it, it's excellent, we love it. I put it on my top six Nope to four, but you only need 12 ounces. I you don't. Can you need it? It's never gonna happen because Cans are fucking expensive. The little eight ounce.
Speaker 3:Oh I go. Can't be eight skin, you can whatever.
Speaker 2:Some hot of some I. But the problem is you can't. It doesn't use the same top as a 12, or no, I mean. So if somebody has a canning line, they can't. So that makes me so I have.
Speaker 1:I wonder about this because so I was a Stemma and Bellingham and they do a lot of canning of their stuff, and then we were doing a flight and I got they had a Rum barrel I think, but barrel aged Scotch ale. Okay, yes, it was really good. And then I looked and I'm like, oh, there's something like in like a, like a skinny can. That's interesting. It's that beer, they like skinny candy and so they're not Like I'd have to double check it what? Even like a 10 ounce? Yeah, I'm not even sure if it's because it it's almost like those seltzer cans, it's like a month.
Speaker 2:Is it like I, would you not?
Speaker 1:just do a normal 12 ounce can, instead of doing the skinny branding?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah um and to irritate grocery stores because it doesn't fit on the shelf with everything else.
Speaker 2:It's so, but they a little cough the Piotin coffee section with the red bowls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, but yeah, they, they have a can, so I think you can do. I just saw they do. Uh oh 12 ounce, so four packs and just shrink this guy down. That's the thing. But yeah, but it's. I mean, it's a Little skinnies, yeah. So like I don't know kind of different, instead of just being a regular 12 ounce can, but like I don't know why, why do the tall skinny instead of marketing? Yeah, I guess be different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right, I think that's it, unless you got any news to know, I think.
Speaker 2:I think kind I'd like to kick the news to another one that this was a nice little yeah it's a rack and stack, or however you want to rank. Oh yeah, I'm back and forth, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we got gotta rank the beer. I go tropical envy over Biggie jumbo. They're both solid. I don't know that. I'm skilled enough to actually do points. I've done it the last couple times. They're both good. Out of the two, I prefer tropical envy Stouts not really my thing anyway. I mean the weather is perfect for it. It's a little early for tropical envy trend more that way that 10% both of them are gonna be. I'd be more apt to get well, the 12 or helps. More apt to get them on draft where you would get yes. So tropical envy takes out biggie jumbo in the battle for my pal this week.
Speaker 1:The one thing I'll say about the biggie jumbo is, a lot of times when you're getting these types of beers like I said, that bigger Body 10% you're also getting all that other stuff. This doesn't have the overly sweetness like a lot of those other ones. So I'm wondering if it's something that I might cycle in a little bit more Instead of having, like the giant barrel aged maple syrup be blah, blah, blah. But to me it's still a seasonal thing. Yeah, maybe going and getting a Smallish pour at the taphouse if it's there, I'm occasionally having it. But yeah, the 10%ers are kind of tough for me that you gotta have the time and space for it. But that Is a solid New England IPA, so I mean you clearly can't complain about that, so I probably would. I would actually buy more. A four pack of the stealth, though to have around, just because a 10% IPA is Pretty rare for me. I'll buy one can every once in a while is about where I'm at.
Speaker 2:I think overall, yes, tropical envy wins the day for me. But if we are November to January and I want to feel warm and cozy inside my house, I'm gonna have the biggie jumbo. Yeah, I think I'm gonna try to pick up a few more of these, stash them in the fridge for summer, but I Would put both these in the beer fridge Seasonally. Same man, I could the same thing as you. Mm-hmm, there's so many IPA, but that's fantastic. Tropical envy is fantastic. That's probably one of the Better. Like, if we redid the our crates, oh yeah, I would probably put that in my crate today. Yeah, I would be interested to look and see. I don't know that I gave it. Like.
Speaker 1:Super high rankings as, like, a triple IPA on Untapped, but it does make me really happy, like, basically, where it might rank with others. Not that I'm out there drinking triples all the time. Yeah, wasn't that K? Thanks Bye, wasn't that a triple? Isn't that what you had? You were drinking as your backup beer at the in one of those episodes. Yes, the like that K things by 2022, degenerate. Yep, backup beer with a triple IPA. I gotta get the beer out of my fridge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's one way to do it. Yeah, the fun beer poker in one of these, it's definitely big jumbo big jumbo all day, so are we.
Speaker 1:Are we gonna end up doing an episode? That is that, cuz I've never had it. We got to do some content for the.
Speaker 2:Gram and the shorts today, so we're gonna be for the shorts. Yeah, you do short things gonna make me every time. Yeah, we're gonna be poking some black raven in some boundary Bay In a few minutes after we wrap up here. It's in the top half of my triple IPA's that I've ranked so, but it's not saying it's on.
Speaker 3:All right, it's better than some and not as good as others.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm trying to think of when I had this other one, that I gave a really good score to you, but I don't think it was with you guys. Yeah, probably not. No, all right, yeah, let's go for it. Yeah, our glasses are empty. Yeah, your's are too.
Speaker 3:We'll catch you next time.
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